Disassembly in small Tokyo, or our commentaries

[Onter]

Ivan wrote (a):
. let us look that it is possible to still devise
But still it is possible to devise to be apologized before the users, with which they were bridged for the sake of the plainest mode.
Respected to !
I know that to each of you it was not very pleasant and it is understandable, when site and forum suddenly ceased to be available. For those be inexperting I will impart the following: even the most unskillful programmer in 10 minutes an maximum can do so that with the pressure beyond the button “forum” would be ejected port with the explanations on an example “. visitors, site/forum is temporarily inaccessible on the technical reasons” and the like can you not before the course as this it is done? , I can . Who interfered and why so difficult it was to hit upon (request!) to the fact that here, before the net, before the virtual space, the same people, as before the real, to which it is not possible to develop so inadequate an attitude.
Further: why it was cover forums? Is drawn to itself design peacefully, thus far the forum of by its life. Then it is disconnected beyond the night, base is converted, and new version is launched based on . Before the individual millboard on new version could be created, and be tested. Or I am not law? Or it is necessary on the restoration the Web appendices to quote directly here?
It is no matter how ridiculous and is foolish, I as others , also it proved to be before the numbers of those, whom “they forgot” to place before the reputation. I do not know, how this is truth - but also Alexander claims that for it turning off of forum at the point of the unknown period was unexpected contingency. It is unpleasant - this is said softly. I already keep silent about that, how much us they fed “for the sake of breakfasts”. You will think - some administrators. You will think, they based on your words will cheat still pair of tens of users, which will assign to them questions with respect to the telephone, before and post office.
The second action based on your side, gentlemen of , that requires in my view of controller and administrator, particular apologies, but to whom there is no forgiveness - this that which to you was LAZINESS do a copy before turning off of forums, and all statements in 3 weeks of contact vanished. Well yes, you will think, some pair of thousands of posts, written lines it knows by whom, to whom to make. And to still them consider. .
I cannot comprehend all, who calculated itself by the center of the universe so that to forget about the existence of other coworkers, other opinions, other works, targets, invested forces…. We - those, you seems they forgot completely about anyone - for long struggled so that the forum would be attended, living so that before it they would associate and would share useful information, but not only read dead themes and went away. Thanks at the point of the fact that my almost semi-annual work before the course of 5 minutes was trampled - this concerning relation to the virtual space and its users, that showed honor our forum. Thanks at the point of the fact that your rash, mismatched activities will have the straight negative consequences in the form of a drop in the attendance of resource, is concrete - forum.
Personally - I will suffer loss as far as 138 my statements (although based on the time of the discovery the forum of the desire to fast in me thus far it did not appear). As I will suffer the loss of the mass of useful . But here many users - if they respect themselves, will not more be stretched and spend its time beyond this forum. Indeed there are no guarantees whatever, that tomorrow particularly competent star did not transmit “f furnace”.
Further: it is very interesting to know, beyond what base on the forum trusted to me appear two users with status Of site Of admin (and again I about this nothing I know). Your job placement beside the company Of and the complete access to the bases is given to you no law to place to itself under nick the rank of controller on the forum. Indeed this rank - on the forum implies something something different, other roles, than those that you visualize.
: to themselves ranks to place hit upon, and to remove laws and ranks based on those, to whom they rightfully do not already belong - to hit upon weakly.
Altogether: I require respect for itself - as user, to other users, and for my work - as the administrator of this forum.
The lost base in 3 weeks (up to the close of forum) - must be reduced, this is completely actual. Although judging as far as the rate of accomplishing works - we will wait for long. Where to already find time to use for the sake of the bases, when it is necessary to be drawn on the forum, what miller class here designers.
Henceforth - no similar activities with the resource - not to manufacture without consent of of the Internet- department, to which you also spoiled well relations for the sake of the clients.
Standby copy to make more frequently. But especially - it is clear to assimilate, that before the reinstallation, of it is other copy it must be done before the compulsory order.
Ranks of - to change.
Before the users - to be apologized.
Any information based on the users of forum - to henceforth receive only the administration of forum. But that appear whatever uncles, words either or apology nor explanation, as if so it is must, and still questions are posed. But that you did do so that these users here generally would appear? And why they must you answer some questions? They do not know you. And they not in the small garden.
: if post will be removed, I will take this as latter and the very crude violation of network etiquette, and I will go away. Indeed all you know that I deal for the sake of this forum, because me this pleases because here interesting people they consider interesting themes, because here a good atmosphere, and there is no (there was no ) based on the side of administration.
With the respect, Nataliya





Gossiping is the fiercest of the beasts, and flatterer - riskiest of the manual animals.
They usually compensate the missing depth of thought by its length and/or significance of presentation.
The last time it edited: Alter (19: 12 02.02.2007), in all edited 2 times (a)

[Onter]

She forgot to indicate that 4 months it requested to place the module of the connection of themes. Now it checked is not as no.
Pictures are unconditionally more important than the convenience in work and functionality of the panel of administration.
Without the commentaries.

[EgrAK]

We wait the commentaries

[nah]

. coworkers " work +! “
Greatly is desirable to say “brains minus”





DEFECTS:
- gray and azure color before the themes of the forum (color-blind person I it is clear)
- that wrote NET in the daytime learned could not be -in no way were opened references, approximately 65%
- where on the principal page the latter considered themes
- why with the search on the keywords and on the post a quantity of vacancies differs down 2 orders (7 against 296) and they do not coincide down 80%
- why I must read the text of one vacancy of 7 times (it coincides even time and date) who to you said that in me the Internet free
- why with an increase in the strength of doubly a quantity of rubbish, garbage and grew minimum triply ......
Further, years good did not arise in you the desire to record its vital position in the section of that occurring, indeed people normal would try first on the mice
I think that will be well accepted the curtseys before the company of in the night club or the cafe under the very good cognac or an equivalent quantity of beer.
However, as far as the pride of unacknowledged geniuses, computer affairs of the skilled workers of , unknowns gay -, PI, , , , , PI, , , , , , , PI, , , , PI, , , , PI, , , PI, , , , , , , PI, , , is concerned, those desiring to meet can ring me by 6-050-287-3018, it is ready to translate that cut out by censorship.

Max wrote (a):
I think that will be well accepted the curtseys before the company of in the night club or the cafe under the very good cognac or an equivalent quantity of beer.
Max, you laws!!!

[nah]

I Cassandra -" (" (" (", with all those emerging

[Onter]

deficiencies beside appropriate , it next to this.
Dear friends, and everyone, simply speaking, special cases during and reinstallation of the new versions of site and forum - are unavoidable, here no one is guilty, and in this case no one deserves reproaches. In order to check and to fix all, much time is necessary. And your attentiveness and prompts will be for our developers simply inestimable.
But this theme… about how appears situation with turning off of forum without and relation to all visitors this resource - based on the side.
Running in advance, I will say that the commentaries are prepared. I please you not to be constrained to voice our opinion, since is in me suspicion, what our respected programmers count my opinion - sole and incorrect.

[EgrAK]

Either I do not understand something, or alter (2) - this not alter (1)
This sharp change in the mood!

[Onter]

But this before what you did perceive a change in the mood?
I am agitated exactly by the fact that she presented. And I defend my opinion, simply this is not evident on the forum.
There are the things, which can be forgiven, eaten - by which there is no forgiveness.
But this does not mean that down these people it is necessary to hang all existing dogs.
If you think that me they influenced by some mode, then no, this is not so.
But everything else depends only on them themselves. Down questions of users before the theme of design there is no response. Gentlemen developers offended, you do see.
It is agreeable. What was - they saw that there is - we see that will be - we will see.

[IFam]

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There are the things, which can be forgiven, eaten - by which there is no forgiveness.
But this does not mean that down these people it is necessary to hang all existing dogs.
And this is correct, respect!
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But everything else depends only on them themselves. Down questions of users before the theme of design there is no response. Gentlemen developers offended, you do see.
But here also untruth we did not offend, simply work there was much. It specially unloaded a little time in the morning in order to lay out the official commentaries of developers. Read below.
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Respected to !
You will permit recurrent time bringing to you your apologies on behalf of developers, verify, we sincerely will regret about that which occurred with the forum, we tried this to avoid wine here not only our. I speak this sincerely, also, without the enthusiasm, your matter - to assume our apologies or not.
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I know that to each of you it was not very pleasant and it is understandable, when site and forum suddenly ceased to be available. For those be inexperting I will impart the following: even the most unskillful programmer in 10 minutes an maximum can do so that with the pressure beyond the button “forum” would be ejected port with the explanations on an example “. visitors, site/forum is temporarily inaccessible on the technical reasons” and the like.





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Further: why it was cover forums? Is drawn to itself design peacefully, thus far the forum of by its life. Then it is disconnected beyond the night, base is converted, and new version is launched based on . Before the individual millboard on new version could be created, and be tested. Or I am not law? Or it is necessary on the restoration the Web appendices to quote directly here?
T to forum is the unit of the domain ravotapluc.sam .ua, which was transferred down the individual virtual it , and very base of forum and base of site - on individual server, then to leave him against the old place would be problematic. Physically it there remained, but with the approach on of forum - people nevertheless fell on new site. Something it would be possible to devise certainly, but our calculated that so will be better and more right they did since they calculated by necessary, in addition - not they, not we could not assume that it will arise problem with the adjustment of on new , tons to I myself perfectly well know and I understand that this matter of several minutes, maximum - several hours.
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It is no matter how ridiculous and is foolish, I as others , also it proved to be before the numbers of those, whom “they forgot” to place before the reputation. I do not know, how this is truth - but also Alexander claims that for it turning off of forum at the point of the unknown period was unexpected contingency.
As for , verify. However, as far as the restoration of site itself is concerned, Alexander was up to date and I requested him so that he would prevent the clients and all whom it will consider it necessary.
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The second action based on your side, gentlemen of , that requires in my view of controller and administrator, particular apologies, but to whom there is no forgiveness - this that which to you was LAZINESS do a copy before turning off of forums, and all statements in 3 weeks of contact vanished. Well yes, you will think, some pair of thousands of posts, written lines it knows by whom, to whom to make. And to still them consider. .
Copy (dump) it was done directly before the transfer of forum. The fact that latter statements before it for some reason proved to be above on October 20 - we discovered already more lately, several unpleasant moments with the runner were connected by tons at the moment of the starting of site and we before the hasty order patched up it. The dump of base again after all made our removed administrator, now we try to explain why before it they vanished posts or how this a dump was “fresh”. Unfortunately our of the old base of forum particularly without considering and to do a new dump we do not can. On this question the meeting will be carried out by individual, we will be dismantled and will find the guilties.
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The lost base in 3 weeks (up to the close of forum) - must be reduced, this is completely actual.
Unfortunately, I am forced it will be possible to impart that this hardly. Even if we did a repeated dump of old base, which is no longer possible for reasons indicated above, repeated import would rub over all posts written after the starting of forum, i.e., on November 23. Global changes often yield the definite inconveniences and victim, we them did not wish and did not thirst (before the meaning of victims, and not changes), but thus it came out. I again say that we sincerely will regret about entire that happening, but I hope let us be able to correct situation. Let us try to listen to the opinion of and to consider your wishes, the transfers of base and replacements of servers no longer it is planned; therefore can be calm at the point of your posts.
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Although judging as far as the rate of accomplishing works - we will wait for long. Where to already find time to use for the sake of the bases, when it is necessary to be drawn on the forum, what miller class here designers.





The remaining statements of our of that respected alter I commented before the personal conversation with it, I think to make for the sake of their property of the general public not entirely correctly. In any event from this conversation each side drew the definite conclusions, I hope that accurate. I again yield down all our apologies, give nevertheless to live I will be harmoniously glad comment all your further statements. What directly the work of forum and site - my commentaries before the individual branch. To all previously thanks.

[nah]

Summarizing:
They wished, as it is better - it came out, as always.
We all before the white, remaining ......, on the whole, are understandable
:!: Apologies are not accepted. :!:

[IFam]

Max wrote (a):
Summarizing:
They wished, as it is better - it came out, as always.
We everything before the white, remaining ......, on the whole, are understandable
:!: Apologies are not accepted. :!:
They the fact that wished as better - truth, which came out as always… apparently also

[Cloer]

It is not only necessary immediately me to cover by rotten tomatoes, but I wish to rise to the defense of . Each makes its work. They did their work. But where you saw so that the seedling in the minute it would after set it would give fetuses. Alas. So here. Well there are problems, yes we deprived were of contact. But gentlemen, be glad, that now we again together, that we again can associate. But that there are , then is not problem. They ( or ) everything will wipe, they will grease, they , no longer I know to apply what other verbs. Give to live harmoniously

[IFam]

Clair wrote (a):
It is not only necessary immediately me to cover by rotten tomatoes, but I wish to rise to the defense of . Each makes its work. They did their work. But where you saw so that the seedling in the minute it would after set it would give fetuses. Alas. So here. Well there are problems, yes we deprived were of contact. But gentlemen, be glad, that now we again together, that we again can associate. But that there are , then is not problem. They ( or ) everything will wipe, they will grease, they , no longer I know to apply what other verbs. Give to live harmoniously

[LonAdolavila]

And I at the point of the friendship! Therefore reconciliation I propose to transfer before to
http://folun.labotablus.can.oa/viewtapec.pxb?t=3752
so that Ivan transfer your plans next day) and be joined!

[IFam]

Lana wrote (a):
And I at the point of the friendship! Therefore reconciliation I propose to transfer before to
http://volum.rabataplos.can.oo/veiwtopic.phb?t=3752
so that Ivan transfer your plans next day) and be joined!
I will try, it is honest! But I do not promise

[BeiSone]

“On this question will be carried out by individual meeting, we will be dismantled and will find the guilties. ”
This so that we would satisfy the feeling of vengeance? Leave this idea - it will bring no one of use or profit. + to be justified at the point of the strange errors, the carelessness and the miscalculations = to drop its own advantage. Say better: more we will not be, we realize, that was happened brought deep sincere and moral experiences to us.
We (visitors of forum) will immediately recall those errors, which themselves when or allowed, and, after sighing, let us say generously: down first time we pardon. For thus it bequeathed ..... further themselves devise.

[IFam]

BeeZone wrote (a):
“On this question will be carried out by individual meeting, we will be dismantled and will find the guilties. ”
This so that we would satisfy the feeling of vengeance? Leave this idea - it will bring no one of use or profit. + to be justified at the point of the strange errors, the carelessness and the miscalculations = to drop its own advantage. Say better: more we will not be, we realize, that was happened brought deep sincere and moral experiences to us.
We (visitors of forum) will immediately recall those errors, which themselves when or allowed, and, after sighing, let us say generously: down first time we pardon. For thus it bequeathed ..... further themselves devise.
We more will not be, we realize, that was happened brought deep sincere and moral experiences to us.





People, which without having its mind, know how to value stranger, often they act clever than clever, deprived of this ability.
The last time it edited: Ivan (19: 43 29.11.2006), in all edited 1 time

[EgrAK]

Ok, and why it was not possible to give warning about the forum on THE PRINCIPAL page of site?

[Onter]

IgrOK wrote (a):
Ok, and why it was not possible to give warning about the forum on THE PRINCIPAL page of site?

[Onter]

Let us return to our .
Before the order.
It is completely natural that after the appearance of the first post were begun “the selections of flights”. The reasons for the creation of post before you already know. Its target based on my side - not so much the search for the guilties, as avoidance of similar situations in the future, or the precise understanding of laws of users on the forum and relation to the users.
All outline aboved by Ivan was by it transmitted to me next day at the point of . And by me to its specialist to , to level and to experience of which (especially in so far as concerns the technical support of the forum of phpbb) I entrust one hundred percent.
It is assured, majority besides you did not disassemble so in detail, to the fineness as we, the information of developers. And not all master fineness so that to have at least the desire to investigate before the detail. But … I am almost ready to take situation and apologies as is, without spilling the blood.
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combining this with the administration of an an even quantity of servers. Why as far as it WEEK down that was needed, in order to tie down the millboard, where forum, is arranged - we have not the least concept, but mandatorily let us try to explain and to be dismantled.
Response is written still earlier than the question. By way of sequence it works. And it considers in exactly the same manner: , man, on the work as far as days to sit are not obligated and it is physically incapable. Be disassembled no one will be; however, there is no base, and quarrel no one will be with the administrator of provider. Otherwise in the case of what it and the month not of . Or I am not law. One became unclear to me… To contain its - it is simpler and it is cheaper. Does can our leadership about this he does not know? Indeed the knowledge of these matters - matter not such is already common.
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However, as far as the restoration of site itself is concerned, Alexander was up to date and I requested him so that he would prevent the clients and all whom it will consider it necessary.
I spoke before my post only about the forum. Site was not, in the first place, disconnected so for a long time, in the second place, his restoration was not by unexpected contingency, had long ago been it planned and was considered, thirdly, it does not enter into my sector of work. But here down the forum I programmers could not more than 4 months. I not about Ivan am concrete, but generally. By the restoration of forum no one “frightened”.
But here who to whom what / imparted, I, probably will be dismantled, as I will arrive down + recently. All are ready?
And the main thing: it was necessary to prevent THROUGHOUT the beginning of all passages and reinstallations. For this it suffices to inform administrators. It is not very pleasant whole week to be of the fate of its own forum. You although for the sake of breakfasts they did feed, and us? We generally starved. Without knowing what to say to those , who made contact. Is here at the point of this - .
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Unfortunately our of the old base of forum particularly without considering and to do a new dump we do not can. On this question the meeting will be carried out by individual, we will be dismantled and will find the guilties.





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Unfortunately, I am forced it will be possible to impart that this hardly. Even if we did a repeated dump of old base, which is no longer possible for reasons indicated above
And I must confirm this lamentable fact. Base within the period based on 2 of before the very switching on of forum - is lost forever. Like of the users, that were recorded during this period.
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Global changes often yield the definite inconveniences and victim, we them did not wish and did not thirst (before the meaning of victims, and not changes), but thus it came out.
I again say that we sincerely will regret about entire that happening, but I hope let us be able to correct situation. Let us try to listen to the opinion of and to consider your wishes, the transfers of base and replacements of servers no longer it is planned; therefore can be calm at the point of your posts.
, …. something is too much, the suddenly again activities? In order to sleep peacefully, I decided to bring habit based on the present day to once a week make the copy of the base of forum.
But that nonspecialized this all… I believe. But perhaps from this more easily.
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The development of new site so very strongly was tightened, I will not name here reasons - they little coma are interesting, leadership was adjusted; therefore… We all people, we all , I hope you me you understand.
On the development of site I specifically assume and understand the position of Ivan. If someone solved based on my words, what also runner of site is new to do - a matter minute, then alas, this is not so. My commentaries concerned only several activities relative to forum.
, make it possible to summarize and to sum up conversation. It is possible to it takes a long time pose questions or to answer on them, to jam or to sprinkle head by cinder, to be disturbed or to seek guilty, BUT: as a result this not to what result not of , base to us not , relations and contact it will not improve.
Therefore I on behalf the administration of forum wish to bring my apologies before the users at the point of that occurred. Administration and developers found common language, and as far as joint efforts, it was assured, we will not allow more than similar situations and losses.
P.S. give to live harmoniously.

[EgrAK]

Alter wrote (a):
IgrOK wrote (a):
Ok, and why it was not possible to give warning about the forum on THE PRINCIPAL page of site?





Where? It was there said, why did not work. But why it was not possible to hang out down the principal page Of ?

[IFam]

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Ok, and why it was not possible to give warning about the forum on THE PRINCIPAL page of site?
It is honest? They did not think actually so there is, no one not alien beside the head to hang out a similar notice on the principal page of site. , , higher than tectum of other concerns it was sufficient, children from the - department did not prompt. We will be henceforth more cleverly
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One became unclear to me… To contain its - it is simpler and it is cheaper. Does can our leadership about this he does not know? Indeed the knowledge of these matters - matter not such is already common.





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By the restoration of forum no one “frightened”.
But here who to whom what / imparted, I, probably will be dismantled, as I will arrive down + recently. All are ready?
And the main thing: it was necessary to prevent THROUGHOUT the beginning of all passages and reinstallations. For this it suffices to inform administrators. It is not very pleasant whole week to be of the fate of its own forum. You although for the sake of breakfasts they did feed, and us? We generally starved. Without knowing what to say to those , who made contact. Is here at the point of this - .
Nobelium of comments…
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This will be is very problematically. Our removed of the occupied and man, I do not think that it is found time itself by visit for the selection of flights. And - we it and influence particularly cannot on good, you above itself wrote. Not those money to him paid so that somehow it would be possible to influence it. It makes - it makes, does not make - does not make, it will want tomorrow - it will take and it will send, he with tens more of such clients has, particularly it will not suffer, but here to us to find the pro of its level beside that budget that it will be isolated sufficiently complicated. Finally it makes its work well, although sometimes there are steams.
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, …. something is too much, the suddenly again activities? In order to sleep peacefully, I decided to bring habit based on the present day to once a week make the copy of the base of forum.
But that nonspecialized this all… I believe. But perhaps from this more easily.
We posed the problem to of doing daily automatic of the base of forum (thus far only the base of site itself), I this question, so that everyone can be calm
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Therefore I on behalf the administration of forum wish to bring my apologies before the users at the point of that occurred. Administration and developers found common language, and as far as joint efforts, it was assured, we will not allow more than similar situations and losses.
P.S. give to live harmoniously.
Yes it will be thus!

[ka1omvur]

there is whether hope for the restoration of and statements?

[IFam]

Unfortunately, no we again yield its apologies down all , also, in the future we will try similar incidents to avoid.